Query: How do we recognize a truly God Realized
Putting yourself in the place of a judge without reaching the stage of
self realization is something like giving your final decisions even before having come to a conclusion. Not
aware of the actual circumstances... dwelling on your judgmental powers which are governed by our intellect
alone can never be the guide on the path of Spirituality.
Spirituality is primarily governed by our inner self, our atman the soul
within. On the contrary every Jiva... all living beings including all human beings are governed by our
intellect (Buddhi in Hinduism). Our intellect is a physical property... it is directly related to the
knowledge gained by us as we proceed ahead in the journey of life. The level of intellect present in every
being is directly related to our willingness to learn more and more of the system surrounding us. The
intellect within every person... the intelligence is directly related to the maturity one achieves while
proceeding on the journey of life. Einstein had a very developed intellect as compared to normal human
Our intellect is not the least related to our atman the soul within
residing in our heart. Every human being at any given moment of time is guided by either our intellect or the
voice of our atman the soul within. For a normal Human being it is not only difficult but also rather
impossible to distinguish between the two. Only people having a true strength of character and who are
willing to proceed ahead on the journey of life by using only truthful means can distinguish between the
People who lie every moment of life can never be the true seekers of God.
In the present World above 99.99 percent people spend their life taking the shelter of lies every now and
then. We have to tread the path of truthfulness alone if we really desire to become a true seeker of
Spirituality. In the circumstances how can we expect one to hear the sweet small inner voice... the voice of
our atman the soul within!
As a true seeker of Spirituality one who merely understands the literary
meaning of self realization can never decide upon whether the other is self realized or not. It is not within
his competence to become a judge of the situation. It is not supposed to be! Had anyone else other than Sri
Ramakrishna Paramhansa or Maharishi Ramana realized God in their lifetimes... so much fame and literature
would have accompanied this person world-wide that it would not have remained undisclosed until
The moment a flower blooms... its sweet fragrance spreads all over and
everyone comes to know that a flower has bloomed. Similar is the case with God realized souls... they cannot
keep the community away for long... one day or the other the facts would disclose themselves to the community
in its own way. One really needs to reach the stage of Nirvikalpa Samadhi to realize that the other person
across the street is God realized... never before! It can never be.
Your thinking that you considered so and so saint to be God realized is
only prompted by your intellect and not your atman the soul within. Based on whatever knowledge you have
gained until now in your journey of life... and whatever be your definition of self realization... you may
have felt that the other is God realized. In truth, we need to reach the level of a God realized person to
judge the other. God Realization truly speaking is the other word for gaining
enlightenment (Kaivalya in Hinduism and Jainism).
To lie is something normal human beings can never do without. In the
present Materialistic World it has become far more essential to be a top-notch liar to succeed in life (I
know it is an anomaly but the truth spread far and wide in the society cannot be denied). The more bigger a
liar... the more intelligent one is considered to be in the present World. One who confidently says, "He does
not lie" either is a saint of the highest order or one who lives in an allusion of his own making. We need to
understand that every Human being is imbibed with impurities. Had it not been so... the manifestation of body
by atman the soul within would not have been required at all.
Our existence as a human being makes it implicitly clear that we are far
away from the Spiritual goal of life. Unless we shed the dross within... our atman the soul within shall not
be able to gain its pristine pure form. Treating ourselves as one who is impure from within... we have to
rise above the platform of senses and the mind. It is not that the senses and the mind are a commodity that
can be taken control of.
It is as if having taken the control of a wild horse... We have to worry about riding it? If we need to milk a
buffalo... we need to own it. It is not that we can get hold of the milk without owning the buffalo or paying a
price for it. It is just not possible that one takes absolute control of senses and the mind and is not able to
reach the stage of Nirvikalpa Samadhi. The sooner one is able to control the senses and the mind... the final goal
of the spiritual life is very near.
In a total of 6000 million people... how many people do you think are
able to establish absolute control over the senses and the mind... it would not exceed one or two persons at
the most. Taking absolute control of senses and the mind is not a joke. God has made 1.1 million
manifestations (a journey of about 12.1 million earthly years) for one to cross over the ocean of Samsara as
a human being alone. What was the need for God to create so many manifestations? God could have reduced the
total cosmic journey from 96.4 million years to about hundred years!
Then the question would arise... why at all the creation of the cosmos?
Everything should have remained as it is. But, in the cosmic system... nothing remains stagnant (inactive)
for long... for everything that forms the basis of the cosmos itself is active energy. Everything in whole
Cosmos is bubbling with vital energy within. We may remain totally idle but multitudes of thoughts enter our
brain every moment of life. Why so? The prime reason being that our atman the soul within is a source of
We may like to do or not... we have to perform our Karma and none in whole Cosmos can escape it. Merely sitting
idle does not mean one has escaped Karma. One can escape doing physical work but not the Karma. The flow of
thoughts unto our brain is a continuous process...whether we desire it or not!
The shortcut in the Spiritual goal of life is meant for one who can
realize God within his lifetime. It is only one or two persons alone in the whole of Humanity consisting of
6000 million people that one is able to realize God within a span of hundred years or so. The path of self
realization is not meant for commercially minded people... one who searches for shortcuts in the journey of
We are what we are. We are not supposed to question the domain of God.
Why he created the Cosmos at all... why he left the total Humanity to suffer and that to at the hands of God
Almighty! Why does god not take pity on his suffering children? If everything in the system of God is orderly
planned then why create sufferings at all?
Every single cause in the system of God has its explanation... a logical conclusion! The total system cannot
survive even if one single act was missing. Everything existing in the cosmos is perfect on its own. It is only our
ignorance that we do not get to the right explanation and the reason why that shortcuts are prohibited. As a
student of class two is prohibited to take a shortcut to class seven... similarly, in the Spiritual domain it is
not the desire of God or the seeker that helps but it is the will of the seeker which ultimately plays the dominant
Everyone in the system who comes first in a race knows well before that
he shall come first. Even before having won the medal... the successful candidate is always prompted from
within that he shall be the winner. We do not have to look elsewhere... there is a mini Cosmos within us in
form of our atman the soul within... whether we are competent to gain self realization in the present life or
not is already known to our atman the soul within... we need to sincerely and truthfully be able to hear that
sweet small inner voice.
You fail to understand the definition of faith. Faith is not something
that is inherited while proceeding on the journey of life. Either one has it or is devoid of it. Faith always
comes from within... faith in the Almighty God does not generate because of the promptings of our seniors,
household members or our Spiritual preachers. It always exists within every individual being. If someone does
not have absolute faith in the system of God... then one is quite below on the ladder of Spirituality
compared to one who has absolute faith in the system of God. Faith is not a mere expression! Whether one has
absolute faith in the system of God or not reflects in ones working... the truth always prevails in the
No Human being can ever develop faith. It is only a few individuals in the history of mankind who were able to cut
the shackles of senses and the mind and a transformation occurred in such human beings. The sage Veda Vyasa was one
of them... the only person in the history of Hinduism who was able to interpret and write the commentary on Bhagavad Gita. The present original form of Bhagavad Gita which is available with
Gita press, Gorakhpur, India... the first document relating to the famous discourse of Lord Sri Krishna to Pandava
King Arjuna in the battlefield of Mahabharata was composed by the great sage Veda Vyasa.
Before becoming the famous Veda Vyasa... this person was a dreaded
criminal... one who used to kill people without a worthwhile cause? The moment he came across a sage of the
level of Gautama Buddha... his total thinking abruptly changed. He became a sincere seeker of Spirituality
from then on. For normal human beings such a change is normally not possible. It is only in very adverse
circumstances that the whole thinking pattern of a human being gets grinded to a halt. And from now onwards
the total personality of this person changes. One is a totally reformed person from now onwards.
Faith is not a commodity that can be bought with a price. Our total Karma
of the previous lives decides whether in present life we faith in the God or not. Nothing can change this
order. If I have been born in a Jain family it is only because of the balance residual Karma of my past
lives. The beggar on the street is not a creation of one-day. He took birth in the house of a beggar only
because of the residual Karma of past lives.
Having been born as a beggar we can definitely look forward to rising high above on the platform of spiritual life.
This is possible but to revert back to the past lives is just not possible. Whoever desires to look into the past
is a purely commercial person. Such a one is not meant to proceed on the path of spirituality at all. Such a one
has to take a really long journey before one can be born as one who has absolute faith in the system of God. Only
then one can travel the Spiritual journey of life comfortably.
Talking to one of my friends... a follower of Punjabi culture (eat, drink
and be merry!)... Who regularly visits Haridwar (the holy city of Ganga, the Ganges river) on most weekends
once narrated the cause of his so frequent a visit to Haridwar... we commit sins for the six days while
performing our business and on the seventh day we visit Haridwar and take a dip in the holy Ganges to wash
away all our inherited sins... how easily said and done!
Is this the goal of life of one who wants to proceed on the path of pure
Spirituality? Can such a one be trusted by God to hold the reign of total Humanity? It can never be. It is
only those rare specimens of Humanity (mankind at large) like the ones of Ramakrishna Paramhansa who become
the pillar of light for the ailing society as a whole. And what type of person Ramakrishna Paramhansa
At the peak of his spiritual life when Ramakrishna Paramhansa realized that soul the atman within every being (not
human beings alone) is of the same nature... he started treating human beings, animals and other forms of life the
same. It so happened one-day that a stray dog ventured into the kitchen of Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa and the
moment he noticed some chapatis lying there... he clutched some in his mouth and ran away.
Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa who was watching the whole incident could not
bear that the stray dog... a child of God must eat the raw chapati lest he choke himself. The chapatis in
India are normally eaten after splashing them with a stroke of Ghee (skimmed butter). Sri Ramakrishna
Paramhansa immediately took a long spoon filled with Ghee and ran towards the dog.
This stray dog on seeing that the master is running after him for having
stolen the chapatis and that too with a Batten in hand ran even faster. Now, what was the message conveyed to
the general public at large on seeing such a sight. People thought that Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa had gone
berserk and children even threw stones at him taking him to be an insane person. Was there any one living in
times of Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa who could have judged the intelligence of Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa.
There was none equivalent to him in mental capability. He had risen above the logistics of senses and the
mind. He had become a free atman the soul within.
This continued for a period of more than two years. A normal Human being would not be able to survive such an
onslaught... but for Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa who was deeply immersed in the thoughts of God all the time... the
surrounding happenings mattered least! He was totally oblivious rather unaware of such Worldly happenings. It is
only those of the likes of Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa who realize God one-day.
While proceeding on the path of the Spirituality we also need to
understand that we are not supposed to do charity from within our necessary wants. Only when we have excess
of anything... we can spare some for the needy. Never otherwise! Most charity on Mother Earth these days is
primarily considered as a token of supremacy of one over the other. One who donates a bigger sum is given
more weightage in the society.
You say... you have chosen to become one with God as the goal of your
life! One who does not have absolute faith in the system of God... can he be considered even a student of the
path of spirituality. No! Such a one desires commercial dealings in the system of God. The discussion on
shortcuts, reducing the period of practicing celibacy, wanting to look into the past... not wanting to accept
the laid down scriptural facts are some of the factors which have already delivered the judgment. You have
failed to pass even the basics on the path of spirituality.
You need to reassess your goal of life. Try to proceed on the path of spirituality even while performing your Karma
and living your day-to-day life... it is only very slowly when the truth ultimately dawns upon you that you shall
be able to truthfully tread the path of spirituality. The truth that in the system of God we are not supposed to
question him... we are what we are... we are for we have earned it owing to our Karma of the previous lives. If we
need to cut our shackles and take the shortcut to the Spiritual goal of life... we need to have hundred percent
faith in the system of God... Only then the pearls of wisdom become more clear to us and lead up straight the
ladder of Spirituality!
As much as there is positive in the Cosmos... we have an equivalent
negative. The positive can be summed up as living in swarga (Heaven) whereas the negative can be summed up as
living in Naraka (hell)... to think why God gave us sufferings and himself does not interfere in our lives
even though we are a creation of his... is indirectly blaming God for his system. We are not supposed to
question God Almighty! The moment one reaches the stage of Nirvikalpa Samadhi... every aspect of cosmic life
becomes so crystal clear to us that the reason for queries subsides forever.
Traveling the path of spirituality is like proceeding on a path with
undefined parameters... as many human beings... as many paths! No two human beings can have the same path.
One travels the uncharted territory of the Spiritual path with absolute faith in the system of God... Only
then the pearls of wisdom keep showering upon us. Slowly and gradually one by one our queries within start
dissolving and eventually we establish absolute control over the senses and the mind.
Talking of mantras... no mantra is ever given by a Spiritual master to a Shishya (student) of Spirituality unless
and until one has reached a certain level. Just by distributing books of class four to a student of class two...
can we expect this student to digest the contents of the book meant for class four? The Spiritual master always
gives mantra at an appropriate time. No student is ever required to ask for the same. Only an ignorant seeker of
Spirituality would desire seeking a mantra.
In the history of Hinduism whenever any student... an earnest seeker of
Spirituality reaches a particular level did the master on his own showered upon the student the critical part
of spiritual life in form of a mantra. No force or pressure can ever be applied to gain a mantra. Mantra is
not something that can be gained by force. It is only in our physical World... the present Materialistic
World that one can take hold of many things by force. In the Spiritual realm such a thing is never possible.
To exercise the magic of a mantra... one needs to rise up to a certain level on the Spiritual
It is like wanting to view the whole of New York from the fourth story of
Empire State building. We all know that to have a full glimpse of New York we need to rise higher up to the
top of the building... the eightieth floor or above. Wants and desires carry no meaning in the field of
Spirituality. In simpler words one who desires to proceed on the path of pure Spirituality needs to sublimate
his ego on the altar of God. It is only when we surrender fully that God takes care of us while proceeding on
the path of spirituality.
Meaning of meditation has been detailed by me in many queries on my website. More on meditation here-
In a nutshell meditation is the English phrase for yoga. And yoga is
derived from yog. In Hindi yog means the process of assimilating one with other. In other words two yog two
is equivalent to four. The effort of atman the soul within to combine with Parmatman (the super soul) is
known as yoga. And Yoga is the means by which Spiritual masters of the yester era were able to complete their
Spiritual journeys at a faster pace.
Without yoga (meditation) no Human being can rightly proceed on the path
of spirituality. Yoga is best practiced in form of jnana yoga . And what does jnana yoga mean? Following the
path of Neti (not this, not this) as advocated and preached by Maharishi Ramana is the shortcut on the path
of spirituality for finding God Almighty. Meditation (yoga in other words) is the means by which one is able
to establish control over the senses and the mind so that the flow of random thoughts through the brain every
second of life becomes stilled. This is a stage of Nirvikalpa Samadhi.
Best way to practice meditation (yoga) is trying to negate every query within us. As the queries within us go on
dissolving... there comes a stage when we shall have no further query within us. This is the culmination of
spiritual life... the stage of Nirvikalpa Samadhi. The Shavasana posture in yogic exercises primarily helps one in
practicing Neti to its full bloom. The Shavasana pose in yoga assists one in practicing pranayama and Neti
simultaneously. This posture in yoga also relaxes the body to its extreme as is required for proper
In the field of Spirituality one has to practice sufficiently to
understand the hidden underlying meaning of words in the Scriptures. A cursory glance by me on the writings
of a Spiritual master makes it clear whether one is god realized or not. I need not go to the website of
religious organization you are refereeing but it is for sure that none in the organization has the realized
God. Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa of the modern times wherever he may be on Mother Earth... the fragrance of
his wisdom reaches every corner of the World. It is not the knowledge of the books which count but... the
wisdom of the ages... the essence of Bhagavad Gita which makes the complete cosmic system crystal
Some of the paras above may seem like vials of poison but the truth...
the absolute truth is more critical in the present Materialistic World. None in the cosmic structure is at a
lower or a higher level... everyone belongs to his own class... we need to excel in our class and forget
about the class above or lower than us. Only then we can maintain our sanity and wisdom. Life is like that...
it is a journey and not a destination! We need to live life as it is meant to be... not as we desire to live
(quoted in the materialistic context).
If I need to go from New Delhi to Bombay... and having reached the destination... what would be my interest in
knowing about the quality of marble used in Taj Mahal. This monument lies on way from New Delhi to Bombay does not
mean we try to go into the details of everything we come across. We are only supposed to indulge in activities
conforming to our goal of life. Having realized God does not mean that I need to indulge in every activity
happening on Mother Earth. I get repeated queries by the day that having realized God I would be able to know the
past and future of every Human being.
Yes, it is true that as a god realized person I can know for sure about
the past and the future of a human being but that would amount to commercialization of highest form of
Spirituality. This is just prohibited in the domain of God. You are able to send me queries... long ones
indeed and the replies are self-explanatory... everything comes to you without a cost. Why? Because of the
prime reason that I am not supposed to be charging anything for disseminating the wisdom contained in the
Bhagavad Gita... the truth behind all Scriptural texts existing on Mother Earth.
Only few human beings who have not been able to digest why I am not
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We also need to understand that everything existing in the cosmic system
can be invoked by the power of Shruti... if I need to know whether Acharya Rajneesh (aka osho) was self
realized or not I just need to go to the frequency on which Acharya Rajneesh (aka osho) lived and everything
which has passed through the life of Acharya Rajneesh (aka osho) would be reflected to me as if I was seeing
a motion movie.
I am presently located at a somewhat higher level than the total
mankind... and if at any subordinate stage... one makes efforts in realizing God... the mental waves of that
person would automatically get reflected to me. It happens many a times in life that even before our
subordinate working in office opens his mouth... we know for sure what one is wanting to talk
I shall only be glad to reply to your queries but please avoid repetition
of all queries of commercial nature. Even religion and Spirituality mean
different... treading the path of pure Spirituality is like trying to walk on a row of spearheads and
that too poisoned! Most people in this World follow the path of religion and not Spirituality. The journey
for seekers of Spirituality is long but stable... one never knows when the grace of God shall shower upon us
and we are blessed with Kaivalya Jnana (absolute wisdom) at the end.
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Always there to clarify your queries (send your query),
Vijay Kumar "Atma Jnani" ... The Man who Realized God in 1993!
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... Vijay Kumar - 5 June 2010.
Full text of query: You have referred to the voice from Atman.
When I had come in contact with one of the personalities I had named in my earlier mail, my inner voice had
said that he is God Realized soul but now you are saying that they are not so how do you say"Our Atman always
prompts one on the right path"? As you remarked in your previous mail, there are many so called Spiritual
masters and pundits but a truely realized soul will never refer to any document or scriptures as everything
is known to him. Then why do you say "as far as I have read through his literature" about Acharya
About developing faith, I thought knowing about my past lives could be
one source which can strengthen my faith in its roots but you are saying thats not permitted. Can I have some
other source like this which strengthens my faith in the system of God? (I mean can I have some practical
experience?) I agree with you that the benificiary of the charity is also questionable but there are so many
genuinely needy persons in the World or even in my city that my all wealth will be exhausted in helping them.
Does it mean that I should do like this? Why do you so much stress upon celibacy of strictly 12 years? As you
say in this Human life we, can take the shortcut. So if somebody is able to control his senses and mind in
less time, would he still be stranded in the path till 12years complete? Why is the divine seeing as an
indifferent observer innocent seekers being duped by such false masters? In the system of god, is there no
care for sincere seekers? My goal is fixed and that is complete ONENESS with God and it has been quite a long
about this decision. I am ready to renounce all Worldly pleasurs for that. The only thing I am confused about
is the method to adopt to realise my goal as soon as possible.What method do you recommend. Meditation in
Shavasana? or in sitting posture? and what do YOU mean by meditation because different people have different
menaings for this word.
As you said, we take manifestations to only undergo the effect of our
Karma and so that we can realize God. And also that there are some mantras to cleanse negative Karma. Are
there any mantras to cleanse both positive and negative Karma so that nothing is left and our journey is
completed? And why don't you disclose those mantras to people who are ready to accept them? Do you think that
had you been under the guidance of a realized soul, your progress would have been quicker?OR can you answer
the same question with regard to me?
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